Couple Combine Biomedical Engineering And Chinese Medicine Using A System?
What do you think of science?
What do you think of Chinese medicine?
If you were born in my generation I am guessing you would favour one over the other, preferring the “Known” or the “Unknown.”
Today you will have an entirely new experience of both. Because there is a new generation building bridges between similarities rather than debating the differences. Such is the case with Coy a Biomedical Engineer, and Laura who studies Chinese medicine and yoga. This BeLoved Miracles couple in their twenties is courageously reaching into the “Unknowable” realm of love, bridging differences which strengthen their unity, together or not at all.
Now imagine living in a world where differences, especially differing points of view are welcomed, valued, even celebrated. This interview introduces you to what is now emerging because of this next generation’s inspiring vision and example of how to play a whole new game…
Because their projects are empowered by a system:
1:45 Little things that people are starting to FLIP THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS about…
2:54 An INITIATIVE that Coy feels needs to be addressed with SCIENCE as fast as possible.
3:17 _____________ is helping the Portuguese people LEARN ABOUT AND FUND SCIENCE.
4:13 Coy’s project came to fill this GAP that exists between ___________ and ___________.
5:02 In the alternative medicine fields people LACK _______________
5:33 By ________________ Coy and Laura are HELPING each others’ things grow.
6:07 Working TOGETHER does not have to mean doing the same things because…
6:25 MOST IMPORTANT thing is _______________ about what you do.
7:09 Love, SUPPORT and ________________ are key here.
8:45 Laura’s mom makes FUN of Coy saying…
9:11 With Chinese medicine something MANIFESTING is usually NOT a good sign.
9:47 CRAVING for ________________ , because it is about CREDIBILITY.
11:17 MOST IMPORTANT is ___________________ and sharing points of view.
13:13 By ________________ we can CREATE our very own research field.
15:13 The EXPERIENCE of no longer relying upon a job to live our lives is….
16:11 ______________ just because of the MONEY is usually not…
17:07 Laura, “I am going to say a really BAD WORD…”
18:17 What works for OUR GENERATION is ______________, While the Problem is…
18:48 Everyone is entitled to have their own _______________ as an INDIVIDUAL.
19:46 TURNING IT INTO A GAME you can…
20:31 If you are not ENJOYING the _________________, Why are you on the ride to begin with?
20:41 ________________ or NOT AT ALL, I like that one, That’s good!
21:17 A SYSTEM which honours your ______________, while you also find a larger wholeness.
21:37 Needles and Chinese medicine _____________ 2017 will be a BREAKTHROUGH YEAR!
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Full Interview Transcription:
Timothy – BeLoved Miracles coming to you again today with couple Laura and Coy they are 26 and 22 trip around the sun entrepreneurs. Coy has a Masters in Biomedical Engineering and is a science teacher and communicator. Laura is a Chinese medicine student and infant yoga instructor. Their projects are empowered by a system. Laura and Coy where does your story as a couple building together using a system begin?
0:38 Laura – 7 years ago, Coy’s best friend Alex started dating my sister Bia, who you have interviewed in the past. We started hanging out more because we’re all part of the same group of friends and everything. Coy started hanging out at the house more and he became part of the furniture because he was always around. That’s how we met. We started dating about a year ago. Before that we had always been a part of this entrepreneur culture, my family’s mostly. That’s pretty much where our story begins from a friendship.
1:45 Laura – I think that is the best way to go really, the best way is to get started with anything is from friendship and connections with people. Even before we started dating we were in tune with all these entrepreneurship ideas. All these little things that right now many people are starting to flip their consciousness about. You wanna tell your part of the story and then we’ll blend it with mine?
2:07 Coy – Yes, at a certain point we just noticed each other and started dating. That brought about change in each others lives. One of the changes was, for my part, that I didn’t want a regular job. I didn’t want a regular paycheck, and have to be doing what other people wanted me to do. Instead I wanted to do my own thing, start my own business and be free of the other things. So I thought a little bit about what I wanted to do. I saw a problem with science communication, because most scientists are terrible communicators. In case you don’t know.
2:54 Coy – So I thought this was an initiative that had to be addressed as fast as possible. Some institutions already do this, but they’re just starting to use the Internet now. So I decided social media was a good place to start. For people to have a better understanding of the basic science around us. In April this last year I started a project called Blog Master Coy. Where I speak to the Portuguese population in general so they can start to learn a little bit more about science. They get interested in it and they have an opportunity to fund it. It’s starting.
3:35 Laura – It’s also great because basic science is always a good thing to know regardless of what your field is. Because it’s the part of the world that surrounds us. Being explained in our own native language. Because most of what is explained is in English, and not everybody speaks English in Portugal. Most of them do but not all of them. And everyone has to have access to this kind of information because not everyone studies science in school. It depends upon your field of study that you choose in high school.
4:13 Laura – Coy’s project came to fill this gap that existed. It’s cute because we are working together in the system at the same time that we are doing different things. Because he is doing the science project and I am doing the alternative healthcare and the Chinese medicine and yoga project. Because I’m a yoga instructor and I’m teaching baby yoga and children yoga from ages 3 to 11. I am also in university studying Chinese medicine. So healthcare is my field, It’s my deal. My problem in my field is that there’s all of this hocus-pocus and there are no scientific facts that can prove that acupuncture works. By the way there’re plenty of studies that show that it works.
5:02 Laura – so in my field of the alternative medicines people are very spiritual and consciously connected but they lack the grounding. And the scientific part is very important too because biology is where everything works at the material level. We work a lot on an energetic level instead of the material level when the ideal is to have both of them working together. So he is working on his part of the project, I am working on my own. Our own individual projects then come together and compliment each other in our own respective fields.
5:33 Coy – so we try to connect the science part with the alternative medicine thing. Although we are doing separate things we also come together in this way so we help each others things grow.
5:51 Laura – Exactly, so I feed him with the more spiritual part, the energetic part which science also has and he feeds me with the more grounding and material stuff that we can actually see and all the mechanisms so that we can know how they work. To understand why something has happened. Some people think that working together as a couple you need to do exactly the same thing. That’s not necessarily true
6:21 Coy – we still support each other just in different ways.
6:25 Laura – Exactly, the most important thing is being passionate about what you do. And the best thing about being in the relationship is that you’re never alone. So you always have this constant source of support and communication, that’s key! Communication! That is basically the most important thing that I find. In our relationship that is what has been working the best. Being completely 100% open and expressive about what you want to do. Because you can’t follow your passion in life if your partner doesn’t even know about it. How can he/she support you if you don’t tell them about it or show them, because some people are not very verbal and they show it in another ways.
7:05 Coy – They definitely need to be able to interpret each others’ things.
7:09 Laura – Yes, they all need to be on the same page. Love, support and communication I think are the key here. So you can be doing your own thing and your partner be doing their own thing and still be working together. Because 99.9% of the time you can actually help each other out. (Coy – Yup, that’s True!) If yoga and science workout, or Chinese medicine and physics workout, which it actually does I think pretty much anything works.
7:39 Timothy – So many in the world would see these very polarised, almost like oil and water trying to mix. You guys have found a way to blend it. I get this infinity symbol flow as I am watching and listening to you. Was it just inherently and naturally a smooth flow or were there some bumps and obstacles that you guys had to iron out so it wasn’t so polarised?
8:03 Coy – In the beginning it was a little bit harder yes. I was more closed for instance. I was more strictly scientific and less spiritual so that was a little bump in the beginning. As long as I find some kind of evidence or reason to believe in something else, well, why not right? I found actually that we needed to believe that this is an issue that needs to be addressed by each other.
8:45 Laura – Yeah, it’s funny because even today my mom makes fun of him. Like oh there’s not a scientific study about it, so that it can be true. Even today she still makes that joke because with him it’s really hard if it’s something that you can’t see. Oh if there isn’t a scientific study about it then it probably doesn’t exist. So working with someone in Chinese medicine, when most of it you can’t see, it’s exactly the other way around. When you can see something it’s a very bad sign! When something actually manifests in the body it’s already usually a pretty bad sign.
9:25 Laura – So here we are back to communication. We just have to learn from each other that not everything is spiritual, and not everything is material. There is this dynamic. I came from the sciences too, having studied it in high school. So I understood his point of view as well. I understood the value of scientific investigation. I want to go into scientific investigation in my own respect, in my own field. The part of the investigation and the scientifically proven things and seeing how things actually work. I think that it’s very important. Not just for knowledge but also for validation. Especially in my field where we are craving for validation, especially here in Portugal.
We are just craving validation from the scientific community because they don’t want to pay attention to us. It’s very annoying.
10:13 Laura – The Science really helps us with that. (Coy – it gives it credibility) Yeah, that’s the word that is needed. So that in the beginning was a little bump in the road of our work. (Coy – it was more a thing of not understanding each others point of view then anything else.) But we worked it out pretty smoothly, We just talked about it and explained our points of view.
10:41 Coy – We showed each other how things work, and how things could work. Until it makes sense to each other.
10:47 Laura – But we took our time. We didn’t force anything upon each other, that’s the thing that we actually had to keep in our minds. I can’t force my point of view on this other person that’s next to me (Coy – and vice versa) because it won’t do anything, it won’t work. He would just start blocking straightaway if I started talking about “Chi” man.
11:13 Timothy – You would have to start bringing the needles out right Laura? 🙂
11:17 Laura – Yeah, like nope, nope he would say. I think what is important here is mostly communication and sharing. Not this works like this and this and you need to think like this. But rather, Oh, in the way that I see it or, how I’m studying it or, how I learned it this is how things work. Isn’t that awesome! And then we were actually putting in an effort to start looking for bridges that we already know exist. Between science and Chinese medicine. For example, regarding some diagnosis. Some symptoms that match with the actual biological processes that happen, but are not necessarily scientifically studied.
12:05 Laura – But we noticed that they happen in our everyday life. So we started doing these little bridges and we were like, oh, this actually makes sense in both fields. Not just one or the other. For example, in my field that is something that I see, people trying to get away from science. That’s not necessarily the way to go especially if we want to be recognised and we want to be validated for our work. Because we are living in a scientific society.
12:52 Laura – The most important thing is that you feel appreciated for your own work. Then especially if you have a partner that supports you 100% that’s like the best thing in the world. Because you have this awesome business partner, even though he may not being doing the same thing as you.
13:07 Coy – And who knows we might be inspired with a research idea so we can begin doing some shared research.
13:13 Laura – Which is something that we have planned in our future since he has all the biological and scientific part and I have the Chinese medicine part. I have some scientific background as well. So we can actually work together in one field only. We can create our own research field. (Coy – That’s true!) By joining two apparently polarized things. It’s like the Yin and Yang right? Instead of two things that are actually opposite, instead they actually complement each other. Instead of thinking of it as magnets I can think of it more as Yin and Yang. Just like the universe and nature that’s how they work. There is light and there’s dark, there is day and there is night, there is science and there is Chinese medicine, there is Coy and there is Laura. There is us and there is Tim.
14:05 Timothy – Right, and here you are extending it to Norway from Portugal right? We could have all these different scales of looking at this. If we look at the before, focusing on the system that you’re implementing, and the after, like a before and after look. What has changed in your life because of implementing the system from the before to the after?
14:27 Coy – A lot of things. (Laura – Yeah, where to start) One of the first things was the mindset that we were in. I feel a lot more open to start new things and try new things. To invest time and money on things that I wouldn’t otherwise. Things I normally would think would be a failure from the beginning. But that’s not true right, nothing can be a failure until you’ve actually tried it. (Laura – And with everything there’s a learning process) Yes, there’s something to learn. And everything you learn is a step forward with your project. That’s the first thing that changed and that’s the most important one. Other things have changed…
15:13 Laura – Oh my, just the fact that we no longer have to rely upon a job to live our lives. That we can have one if we want to. (Coy – It’s very freeing.) Yes it’s very freeing. Like I’m a yoga instructor, so I have a job. Coy is applying for grants, for scientific research. So if he gets it awesome. If he doesn’t get it, then that’s okay. (Coy – I am going to keep on doing my project in any case.) We can do whatever we want, and not be dependent upon one thing only. Which makes things so much easier. It’s so freeing. I am 22 and he is 26 so we are pretty young. We still have like a lot of years in front of us.
16:05 Laura – Most of the kids our age, they are more focused on finishing school to go get a job. And what ever.
16:17 Coy – Most of them are actually trying to get a job.
16:11 Laura – And that’s okay. The problem comes when you don’t get that job for some reason. First of all doing something that you don’t want to do, point 1. Doing it just because of the money, that’s usually not a good place to start. Because money is very powerful driving force.
16:31 Coy – But it doesn’t make you happy necessarily.
16:34 Laura – Right because it’s not the money that makes you happy it’s what you do with it. (Coy – Yup) So what is the point in doing a job to get the money when by the end of the day you can’t go home and think ahhh, I had a good day today. Wow I actually get to do something that I love! There is no money that can pay that. Peace of mind, and just the idea of living your own passion and life the way you want to live it. There is no job that can pay for that. Unless it’s a job that you actually want and are passionate about. Which can happen.
17:03 Coy – That’s why I am still applying for grants.
17.07 Laura – Right, he is out applying for his grants and that’s what he wants to do. It’s about having options. A lot of kids our age are looking at a job and thinking, if I don’t get a job in something…I am going to say a really bad word… I’m screwed! But in our case that doesn’t happen. Because okay he doesn’t get the grant, OK, let’s move on to the next one.
17:35 Coy – Fine. I still have my project and my things are still going. I still have a source of income so… (Laura – Were good!)
17:45 Timothy – That’s a beautiful source of freedom to have at your age and stage of life you guys. It’s very inspiring! It’s not something I had at your…your…what…generation. My generation had a different journey, and it’s very inspiring for me to get to listen and hear that in your generation I believe…but you also mentioned, and I should ask you that quick. Most of your generation are not seeing this yet, did I hear that correctly?
18:11 Coy – Yup, not yet.
18:13 Laura – Slowly but surely, but right, not yet. There is a lot to do in this field.
18:17 Coy – One of the things that works out for our generation is that we are actually open to new technologies. We actually use them a lot so that is a point that is already solved. We don’t have to worry about that. The problem is mindset. It’s the way people think about things and don’t try some things when sometimes should.
18:43 Timothy – There is a question. What advice would you give to other couples building something together?
18:48 Respect each others opinions. Even if you don’t agree with them. Because everyone is entitled to have their own opinion as an individual. So as a couple that can’t change. Respect the communication about each other’s ideas. I think that’s pretty much the main thing. Feel free to be an individual while being in a relationship.
19:13 Coy – Just talk to each other about both your work and your day-to-day life. It’s not just about one or the other.
19:19 Laura – The sharing is what makes it awesome! It’s about sharing the experience of your daily life. And about your own project and whatever you are doing. If it is the same awesome, you’ll have that much more to talk about. Because you’ll have two points of view about the same thing. If it happens to be different, then find the bridges. Because everything has a bridge. Because everything is connected. From whatever field, to people, we are all connected in a way.
19:46 Laura – Turn it into to a game. By turning it into a game you can find links between one field and the other. You actually make your relationship fun. Lots of games and lots of jokes. That’s pretty much what we do lots of games and lots of jokes. Lots of sharing and lots of love, communication. I think that is pretty much what we have to say about that. Anything you want to add on that? (Cory – No, that was perfect.)
20:15 Timothy – Oh, you guys wrapped it up really really nicely and in such a bubbly and champagne like experience here. I am just like taking another sip and enjoying the example that you guys are. An example that I often refer to as together or not at all.
20:31 Laura – Indeed. (Coy – Yes, that is basically how it goes.) Because if we were not together it would not be half as much fun. (Coy – That’s true) You want to enjoy the ride. If you are not enjoying the ride, why are you on the ride to begin with. Yeah, together or not at all I like that one, that’s good!
20:50 – Thank you! And with that we’ll sign off from here in Norway to you guys in Portugal. Please do keep sharing this shining star example that you guys are to your generation, and to those of us who are two or three generations out in front of you here because it is very hopeful. What I’m hearing in you, the awareness that you have of the differences but not stopping there and finding a way to bring them together. Having a system to do that which still honours your independence and at the same time can find a larger wholeness. Is what I am receiving from all that you guys are putting out.
21:27 Coy and Laura – Yeah, that’s pretty much what it is. Thank you Tim! Yes, thank you for inviting us for this interview. It was amazing!
21:37 Timothy – We’ll do it again soon! Because I have a feeling you guys are on the cutting edge of what you’ll be doing next with your grants and your research. And your needles and the Chinese medicine. Good stuff guys! Really really good stuff! I think 2017 is going to be a breakthrough year.
21:53 Coy and Laura – Ahh, it’s going to be an amazing year. It’s going to be amazing!
22:01 Timothy – Ok, we’ll talk again soon! Goodbye for now!
22:03 Coy and Laura – Goodbye Tim! Thank you!
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